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Source: US-China trade talks are really about ‘a new world order,’ says asset management CEO

  • Hendrik du Toit of asset management firm Investec said that U.S.-China trade talks are not really about trade at all but about “a new world order.”
  • The two countries have been trying to deescalate their trade battle over the course of a 90-day truce.
  • Du Toit also said that he saw “opportunities to lock in yields” in emerging market assets.

Trade talks between the United States and China are not simply about trade but a “new world order,” the chief executive of a major asset management firm told CNBC.

“The big uncertainty is the U.S.-China trade negotiation which is not really about trade, it’s about a new world order,” InvestecINVP-GB’s Hendrik du Toit said at the
World Economic Forum
in Davos, Switzerland.”

“And if we get a dysfunctional world order having come from a space which was very, very good business over the last 20, 30 years since communism fell,” he said, “then there may be some big hits along the way and there may be some big challenges.”

Since early 2018, Washington and Beijing have been engaged in an increasingly intensifying dispute over trade, with new tariffs being leveled on either side targeting billions of dollars’ worth of goods from each other’s economies.

President Donald Trump has long been a critic of the trade imbalance between the U.S. and China, and has seen the dispute — which many, including the president himself, have called a trade war — as a means of putting pressure on Beijing and reduce the trade deficit. That trade deficit rose to its
largest in a decade
in 2018.


The two countries have been trying to deescalate the trade war, with both agreeing late last year to a 90-day truce to engage in further trade negotiations and hold off on any further tariff increases until the ceasefire comes to an end.


Worries are rising over a weakening of China’s economy, with many experts pointing to the U.S.-China trade battle as a primary cause. Chinese gross domestic product (GDP) — a key measure of economic health — grew 6.6 percent last year, at its slowest pace in almost three decades.

Add to that fears of a slowdown in global economic growth. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) this week
cuts it global growth forecast
, warning that the economic expansion seen in recent years has been losing momentum.

‘Opportunities’ in emerging markets

Emerging markets, an area Investec is known to be active in, saw considerable volatility last year with warning signs flashing in various economies, including South Africa, Turkey and Argentina.


Last year saw the resignation of South Africa’s then-finance minister Nhlanhla Nene, fears about the Turkish central bank’s independence, and an Argentinian plea to the IMF for the early release of standby funds. The negative headlines led to a steep depreciation in the countries’ currencies.

But the Anglo-South African lender’s chief said that emerging markets are still a good area to focus on, pointing to a recent recovery in emerging market assets.

“If you look at the correction, we’ve had a very substantial correction in emerging market equities, also in emerging market debt, both areas we’re active in,” Du Toit said.

“Everyone thinks there’s this disaster going on, yet local currencies in emerging markets have recovered really well over the last few months, and there are opportunities to lock in yields, to make money in what still is a low-yield — what should be a low-return — world, but actually it’s been a reasonable return world.”

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